Q&A with Bloomberg on August 3, 2013
Q1: How do you assess India's current economic situation?
Can you think of an adjective or a phrase to define India's current situation?
A1: India’s
current Economic Problems are due to widespread Growth Complacency following
the successful recovery from the Global Financial Crisis.
Q2: The U.S. Fed tapering is explained as one main reason why India is seeing a huge pain in terms of outflows and plunge in the rupee. What's your outlook on the Fed unwinding and what does that mean for India? Do you see it stretching over a 1 to 2 years timeframe and, if yes, what does that mean for the entire world, including India? Do you see India going through a prolonged period of pain?
A2: The main reason for the Rupee depreciation is the loss of competitiveness of the Indian economy due to high inflation and low corporate investment, resulting in appreciation of the REER. With the rupee at 65/$ this has been offset for the time being. The Fed unwinding was a trigger for the depreciation. The uncertainty arising from the Fed will reduce considerably once the new Fed Chairperson is selected by President Obama. However, another US interest rate rise, with its effect on capital outflows from Emerging markets is still possible.
Q2: The U.S. Fed tapering is explained as one main reason why India is seeing a huge pain in terms of outflows and plunge in the rupee. What's your outlook on the Fed unwinding and what does that mean for India? Do you see it stretching over a 1 to 2 years timeframe and, if yes, what does that mean for the entire world, including India? Do you see India going through a prolonged period of pain?
A2: The main reason for the Rupee depreciation is the loss of competitiveness of the Indian economy due to high inflation and low corporate investment, resulting in appreciation of the REER. With the rupee at 65/$ this has been offset for the time being. The Fed unwinding was a trigger for the depreciation. The uncertainty arising from the Fed will reduce considerably once the new Fed Chairperson is selected by President Obama. However, another US interest rate rise, with its effect on capital outflows from Emerging markets is still possible.
Q3: How serious the current crisis is with the rupee
plunging, IIP in negative, CPI inflation in double digits and widening
deficits? Do you see a possibility of a recession or recession-like or
stagflation or stagflation-like situation in India?
A3: The economic situation is extremely serious. Barring bold policy reforms, I expect continued slow growth and persisting CPI (new) inflation in the 8-9% range.
A3: The economic situation is extremely serious. Barring bold policy reforms, I expect continued slow growth and persisting CPI (new) inflation in the 8-9% range.
Q4: What's your outlook for economic growth? Do you see a
protracted growth slowdown in India?
A4: I first coined the word “Growth recession” to describe the Indian growth slowdown in 1997. I expect growth to bottom out in Q2 of 2013-14 (Q3 of 2013), but a very slow and protracted recovery, in the absence of bold policy reform to restore macro balance and revive corporate investment and growth.
A4: I first coined the word “Growth recession” to describe the Indian growth slowdown in 1997. I expect growth to bottom out in Q2 of 2013-14 (Q3 of 2013), but a very slow and protracted recovery, in the absence of bold policy reform to restore macro balance and revive corporate investment and growth.
Q5: What's your outlook for the rupee? Where do you see the
rupee by the end of December? Do you see it touching 70 against the dollar? Or
even lower than that?
A5: I think there is a high probability of the rupee ending 2013 between Rs65 –Rs70/USD. However, I cannot rule out the possibility that another negative external shock could push it above Rs70/USD.
A5: I think there is a high probability of the rupee ending 2013 between Rs65 –Rs70/USD. However, I cannot rule out the possibility that another negative external shock could push it above Rs70/USD.
Q6: The rupee has continued to fall despite a slew of measures
by the RBI and the government. What does the steep decline in the rupee
indicate about the management of the crisis? What are the markets signaling
about the management of the crisis?
A6: The depreciation of the rupee to about Rs 65/dollar was primarily due to the loss of competitiveness. However, the attempt to keep it from moving to that level through various control measures backfired, with markets interpreting it as a return to old discredited methods of the 1970s. the loss of credibility made it more difficult to keep the rupee from overshooting above Rs. 65/USD.
A6: The depreciation of the rupee to about Rs 65/dollar was primarily due to the loss of competitiveness. However, the attempt to keep it from moving to that level through various control measures backfired, with markets interpreting it as a return to old discredited methods of the 1970s. the loss of credibility made it more difficult to keep the rupee from overshooting above Rs. 65/USD.
Q7: Why is India in such a mess? As an economist, who has analyzed India for more than three decades now, what do you think has gone wrong?
A7: There are four reasons (each of which I had warned about in 2009 my last year as CEA, MOF). (a) High growth cannot be taken for granted and must be nursed through pragmatic measures to deal with bottlenecks and shocks. The failure to institute policy regulatory & institutional reform measures has led to a down trend in growth. (b) Old and new problems in the agriculture supply chain have resulted in inadequate supply while demand accelerated with per capita income resulting in and high food inflation. (c) Delay in pulling back on growth of government consumption (including subsidies) and reducing revenue deficit, and thus crowding out Govt. investment and leading to a demand bubble in 2010-11 (with its bursting from subsequent external shock). (d) Encouraging Capital inflow surge, instead of restraining it with predictable appreciation of the REER and consequently on Balance of Trade and Current Account Deficit.
Q8: How do
you think the Reserve Bank of India has tackled this crisis? What can the RBI
do in such a situation to support growth and contain rupee's plunge and curb
inflation?
A8: Reserve Bank assumed
that the depreciation was due to credit financed speculation and tried a mix of
traditional control measures and conventional liquidity tightening. As the move
from Rs 55/USD to Rs. 65/USD helped correct the earlier appreciation (inflation
differential) it was unsuccessful in doing so.
It also weakened its credibility.
In my view it should have let Rs depreciate to a point between Rs65 and
70, that it could successfully intervene to demonstrate effectiveness and give
a message to speculators.
Q9: Do you think, we are in a somewhat a similar situation the U.S. faced in
70s (Nixon era) when it had a huge cad problem, that resulted in the dollar
crumbling and forced Paul Volcker to raise rates aggressively? Do you see
Volcker-like tightening as the final solution to get a grip on the currency
crisis?
A9: I believe that a
conventional monetary policy of raising interest rates in response to a rise in
US rates will lower growth rates without stemming rupee depreciation or slowing
CPI inflation which is largely due to Agriculture. I have suggested an unconventional policy
called the Macro-Pivot that would reduce government expenditure (including
subsidies) to reduce government dis-saving and demand for non-tradables and
loosening monetary policy to promote private investment and demand for consumer
durables.
Q10: Do you think that the RBI is done with the rate easing cycle? What will be the future moves towards tightening the rates (having already raised MSF and bank rate)?
Q10: Do you think that the RBI is done with the rate easing cycle? What will be the future moves towards tightening the rates (having already raised MSF and bank rate)?
A10: RBI’s policy
will now be determined by the new RBI governor. We will have to wait till he
takes over and signals his intentions.
Q11: What more do you think the RBI and the government can do to contain the currency crisis?
Q11: What more do you think the RBI and the government can do to contain the currency crisis?
A11: The immediate crisis arising out of the rise in US interest
rates has been contained. Further shocks
can only be dealt with by taking control of monetary policy (flexible exchange
rate) combined with the “Macro pivot”.
Q12: Dr. Rajan in his 2009 financial reforms report advocated for a
complete overhaul of the economic policy making in India, including, inflation
targeting and operational freedom for the RBI and government cutting down
deficits. Do you think Dr. Rajan will be able to push for the implementation of
those reforms? What will enable him to do that or what will prevent him to do
that?
A12: Raghuram Rajan as RBI governor has the authority to carry out
all financial reforms pertaining to the RBI itself. He can also influence the financial reforms
pertaining to other financial regulators and the finance ministry, as
historically RBI is viewed as more resistant to change. He has the blueprint of
the committee that he chaired 6 years ago. However, I would strongly recommend against
introducing “inflation targeting” at this sensitive time. Raghu will have little influence on what the
government does on the deficit front.
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